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:lang: en
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:date: 2015-06-29
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:date: 2015-10-12
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:headline: Bringing trust back between software authors and user agents.
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:headline: Bringing trust back between software authors and user agents.
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:status: draft
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.. note:: I'm not a crypto expert, nor pretend to be one. These are thoughts
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.. note:: I'm not a crypto expert, nor pretend to be one. These are thoughts
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I want to share with the crypto community to actually see if any
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I want to share with the crypto community to actually see if any
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trust the software authors but are rather trusting the software distributors
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trust the software authors but are rather trusting the software distributors
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and certificate authorities (CAs).
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and certificate authorities (CAs).
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I've been talking with Richard Barnes last week about that and he suggested
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I've been talking with a few folks in the past months about that and they
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I publish something to actually discuss this further, so here it is!
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suggested me to publish something to discuss the matter. So here I come!
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Attack vectors
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The problem (Attack vectors)
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Let's try to describe a few potential attacks:
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Let's try to describe a few potential attacks:
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*Application Authors* just released a new version of their open source web
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*Application Authors* just released a new version of their open source web
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crypto messaging application. *Indie Hoster* installs it on their servers so
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crypto messaging application. An *Indie Hoster* installs it on their servers so
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that a wide audience can actually use it.
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a wide audience can actually use it.
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Someone alters the files on *Indie Hoster* servers, effectively replacing them with
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Someone alters the files on *Indie Hoster* servers, effectively replacing them with
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other *altered files* with less security properties / a backdoor. This someone could either be
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other *altered files* with less security properties / a backdoor. This someone could either be
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*Evil Attacker* or *Indie Hoster* which can already alter these files because
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an *Evil Attacker* which found its way trough, the *Indie Hoster* or a CDN
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they're distributing them.
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which delivers the files,
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Trusted *Certificate Authorities* (read "governments") can also trick to
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Trusted *Certificate Authorities* ("governments" or "hacking team") can also
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User Agents (i.e. Firefox) into thinking they're talking to *Indie Hoster* even
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trick the User Agents (i.e. Firefox) into thinking they're talking to *Indie
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if they're actually talking to a different party.
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Hoster* even though they're actually talking to a different server.
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**Altered files** are being served to the User Agents, and *Evil Attacker* now
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**Altered files** are then being served to the User Agents, and *Evil Attacker*
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has a way to actually attack the end users.
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now has a way to actually attack the end users.
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Problem Mitigation
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Problem Mitigation
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I hope it's clear by now that we miss a way to create trust between
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Part of the problem is solved by the recently introduced `Sub Resource
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*Application Authors* and *User Agents*. The User-Agent has to trust
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Integrity <https://w3c.github.io/webappsec/specs/subresourceintegrity/>`_
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*Certificate Authorities* and *Indie Hoster*.
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(SRI). To quote them: "[it] defines a mechanism by which user agents may verify
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that a fetched resource has been delivered without unexpected manipulation.".
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I believe this specific problem had been solved, at least partially, for
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SRI is a good start, but isn't enough: it ensures the assets (JavaScript files,
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desktop software distribution: *Crypto Experts* audit the software, sign it
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mainly) loaded from a specific HTML page are the ones the author of the HTML
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page intends. However, SRI doesn't allow the User Agent to ensure the HTML page
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is the one he wants.
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In other words, we miss a way to create trust between *Application Authors* and
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*User Agents*. The User-Agent currently has to trust the *Certificate
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Authorities* and the delivery (*Indie Hoster*).
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For desktop software distribution: *Crypto Experts* audit the software, sign it
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somehow and then this signature can be checked locally during installation or
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somehow and then this signature can be checked locally during installation or
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runtime.
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runtime. It's not automated, but at least it's possible.
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For web applications, we don't have such a mechanism, but it should be
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For web applications, we don't have such a mechanism, but it should be
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possible. Consider the following:
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possible. Consider the following:
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- *App Authors* publish a new version of their software; They provide a hash of
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- *App Authors* publish a new version of their software; They provide a hash of
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each of their distributed files;
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each of their distributed files (including the HTML files);
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- *Crypto Experts* audit these files and sign the hashes with their private
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- *Crypto Experts* audit these files and sign the hashes somehow;
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key;
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- *User Agents* can chose to trust some specific *Crypto Experts*;
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- *User Agents* have a way to add the certificate for *Crypto Experts*;
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- When a *User Agent* downloads files, it checks if they're signed by a trusted
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- When a *User Agent* downloads files, it checks if they're signed.
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party.
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Chosing who you trust
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Chosing who you trust
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.. note:: And now is the time I start talking about things I don't know. But
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maybe you trust me?
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In terms of user experience, handling certificates is hard, and that's where
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In terms of user experience, handling certificates is hard, and that's where
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the community matters. Distributions such as `Tails <https://tails.boom.org>`_
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the community matters. Distributions such as `Tails <https://tails.boom.org>`_
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could chose who they trust to verify the files, and issue warnings / refuse to
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could chose who they trust to verify the files, and issue warnings / refuse to
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-- `SoK : Secure Messaging <http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/techreports/2015/cacr2015-02.pdf>`_;
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-- `SoK : Secure Messaging <http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/techreports/2015/cacr2015-02.pdf>`_;
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Now, I honestly have no idea if this thing is practicable, and I'm pretty sure
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Now, I honestly have no idea if this thing solves the whole problem, and I'm pretty sure
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this design has many security problems attached to it. But that's a problem
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this design has many security problems attached to it.
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I would really like to see solved one day, so here the start of the discussion,
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don't hesitate to `get in touch </pages/about.html>`_!
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However, that's a problem I would really like to see solved one day, so here
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the start of the discussion, don't hesitate to `get in touch
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</pages/about.html>`_!
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